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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:54 pm 
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Listening to PJ Harvey's Today: radio with a straight spine and a full mouth of teeth. Brilliant
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 2_01_2014/

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:33 pm 
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Ian Burrell defending Polly's editorship in tomorrow's Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 35142.html

There has been talk in the offices of the Today programme of scrapping the tradition of handing control of Radio 4’s flagship news broadcast to guest editors at the end of each year. The feeling was that, after 10 years, the gimmick may have run its course. But after hearing PJ Harvey’s edition this morning, I hope they keep it going.
The musician approached her role from a completely different perspective. The result, filled with snippets of music and poetry, felt radical and refreshing.

Thought for the Day was split between former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams reading his poem “Passion Plays”, and Julian Assange delivering an alternative version in which he explored the relationship of knowledge and power.

Perhaps predictably, the more reactionary parts of the media immediately condemned her efforts, with the Daily Mail website branding it the “worst ever” edition of Today, and a Daily Telegraph headline dismissing it as “left-wing tosh”. One Telegraph writer suggested the show should have been replaced by “birdsong”.

Harvey’s Today generated its own digital birdsong: a flurry of comment on Twitter which was complimentary and critical in equal measure – surely a sign that the programme was generating debate.

Nick Robinson took issue with a John Pilger piece titled “Is the media now just another word for control?”, but it won’t be the first time the BBC political editor has shouted at his radio. Yes, the programme skewed to the left, but it wasn’t tosh. Photographer and triple amputee Giles Duley talked of the plight of injured servicemen. Russian history professor Bob Service condemned the totalitarianism of Kim Jong-un and Leonid Brezhnev.

At the start of the show, presenter Sarah Montague observed that it was “a quiet news day”, emphasising the value of the guest editor experiment. She may have been getting an excuse in for the unusual material, and I would imagine that some of the Today regulars felt a little uncomfortable.

It can’t have been easy for business presenter Simon Jack to hand over to John Rees of the National People’s Assembly Against Austerity, who cued up his report with the Jam’s “In the City” before letting rip at the Square Mile.

PJ Harvey is an outspoken liberal, but let’s not forget this was part of a Today series that included guest editions by the CEO of Barclays Bank and a former head of MI5. She knew she was testing boundaries, but I didn’t feel BBC editorial values were compromised.

She had demanded that the BBC did not restrict her contributors in what they could say, or edit their pieces “without their full consent”. A lot of the content she had chosen “is about censorship in one way or another”, she added. Bravo the BBC for not putting on the shackles.

Front cover of tomorrow's Independent.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:37 pm 
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Oh, and what about the headline on lecturers, who supported austerity measures, getting pay rises? Did Polly move onto The Independent editorship after the BBC?! :-)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:39 pm 
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So comments on censorship are now "left wing tosh?" lol. I suppose the assumption is that an anti-war artist must be left wing. And in turn, I believe that reaction is called, "knee-jerk?"

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:43 pm 
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Polly's response from her website:

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When I was invited to be guest editor on Today, I saw it as an opportunity to try and do something unusual with the format and content of the programme.

I began by thinking of people I consider to be highly articulate, stimulating and extremely interesting to listen to - people who challenge us and move us to examine our deepest beliefs and feelings. I wanted to fill my programme with their voices.

Most importantly, I wanted to let them be heard in a manner of their choosing, whether that be a monologue, a poem, or interviewing others. What I didn't want was for them to be restricted from saying what they wanted to say.

Before I accepted the invitation to be guest editor, I asked Today to agree to this, as well as agreeing not to edit my contributors pieces without their full consent.

I hope that the programme you hear, is the programme I wanted you to hear - I have come to realize that a great deal of its content is about censorship in one way or another.

As ideas for titles and topics to be discussed took shape, many poems and songs came into my mind. For me, music and poetry can be as persuasive and as powerful as a fine speaker and a fine speech. You will hear songs and poems supporting and highlighting the content of this programme.

I would like to thank my contributors for the time and care they have put into this project, and for the willing spirit with which they have entered into it.

As an artist, I try to make sense of the world through my work. I just try to get something down - look at it up close, from different angles. These people, these voices, help me make sense of it all.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:21 am 
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From Guardian-Five things we learned from PJ Harvey's Today Show
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicb ... show-radio


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My favourite part of this article on the "cult artist" is the "So, Who Is Polly Jean Harvey?" bit at the end. Keep up the good work, Daily Mail....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -tosh.html


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:46 am 
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babycakes wrote:
My favourite part of this article on the "cult artist" is the "So, Who Is Polly Jean Harvey?" bit at the end. Keep up the good work, Daily Mail....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -tosh.html


ha ha, there were a few comic gems in there.

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she manageed to shake things up once again : )..


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http://www.scotsman.com/news/joyce-mcmillan-why-politics-deserves-a-new-voice-1-3254216#.UscVDCyM4aH.twitter


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It takes a left-wing rock star fronting Today to reveal how impoverished public debate has become, writes Joyce McMillan

As I write, it’s the second day of a brand new year, and the airwaves are loud with debate over one of the special holiday editions of the Radio 4 Today programme.

It is the annual custom of the Today team to invite a series of celebrity guest editors to shape their programmes over Christmas and New Year and yesterday the guest was none other than PJ Harvey, the brilliant English rock star, artist and writer, who set the nation all a-quiver both with her news agenda – which included long-term problems of torture and British involvement in the arms trade, more immediate concerns with current austerity policies and attacks on the NHS, and almost nothing from the familiar daily menu of pseudo-crises thrown up by the popular press - and with her choice of contributors, which included such controversial figures as Julian Assange of Wikileaks, and the radical journalist John Pilger. Some listeners loved the programme, relishing it as a serious challenge both to Today’s normal news agenda, and to its highly conventional style. Now in her early 40s, and a famously smart woman, Harvey recognised that form and content are intimately linked, and sought to shake up the rigid Today format, combining traditional reports and interviews with protest songs, poetry and opinion pieces. As former Newsnight editor Paul Mason pointed out in an appreciative Twitter message, the programme was so strikingly different from a normal edition of Today that it raised some profound questions about the versions of “truth” and “balance” routinely applied by the BBC.

For the 21st-century British Right, though – used to seeing their sense of what is important go largely unchallenged in day-to-day political broadcasting – the programme was an outrage. The phrase “Left-wing tosh” was bandied about, the cultural elements of the programme were mocked (how they hate and fear human creativity, these masters of the universe), and one Tory MP wondered, in vaguely menacing style, who was responsible for extending the invitation to Harvey. Since this year’s group of guest editors also included such establishment figures as Dame Eliza Manningham Buller, former head of MI5, and Anthony Jenkins, CEO of Barclays Bank, there are clearly no grounds for complaint from the Right about the overall balance of this year’s holiday editions. The British boss class, though, increasingly demand not so much balance as total hegemony. Where a generation ago they would have had the wisdom to welcome Harvey as an alternative voice that demonstrated Britain’s commitment to diversity and freedom, now they just want her and her kind to shut up, before they put any wild ideas into the heads of the compliant masses.

The row over Harvey’s edition of Today is likely, of course, to be little more than a brief storm in a media teacup. Yet it comes as a sharp reminder that what was once a normal left-of-centre agenda in Britain has now become so exotic that people react to its presence on Radio 4 with various degrees of shock. Most of the points made by Harvey’s contributors may have been accurate, truthful and based on fact. But, in terms of contemporary British political debate, they nonetheless remain marginal, because they are not part of the dominant grand narrative of our time, which requires constant deference to the priorities of rich so-called “wealth creators”, and a rapid refocusing of any popular anger towards other vulnerable groups, such as this New Year’s imaginary tidal wave of new migrants from Romania and Bulgaria.

The great political question of our time, in other words – in the UK and across the West – is whether any political force will emerge, in the 21st century, that seriously challenges this dominant narrative; or whether we are now trapped by an account of reality so far adrift of the truth, and so rarely challenged, that a long age of social, moral and intellectual decline seems almost inevitable.

It is a damning indictment of the current state of British politics – and particularly of the recent history of the Labour Party – that it takes a rock star to create a Today programme that seriously challenges and shifts the conventional news agenda.

Nor is it surprising that many centre-Left voters in Scotland are looking to next year’s independence referendum as a unique and vital opportunity to escape from this stale and ugly politics of reaction, and to start reinventing a more just and creative form of national community for the 21st century.

And as for Ed Miliband, the Labour leader who should be mustering the poetry, the imagination, the music, the international alliances and the clear political vision that might help a new generation to break the dead grip of neoliberalism at last – alas, he remains hopelessly earthbound, stuck in a groove of language that ranges from the tediously technocratic to the reductively blokeish, reduced to making a New Year video for Scottish voters which implies that hospitals in Liverpool would refuse to treat Scottish patients after independence, and forever conscious that in order to win the key south-eastern marginals that determine Westminster victory, he can afford to deviate barely at all from the mean-minded politics of austerity and victim-bashing that makes the return of progressive social policy at UK level ever more unlikely.

Yet just for a moment, in Harvey’s Today , we caught a glimpse of what it would be like truly to change those terms of debate. The vision was so startlingly unfamiliar that it reduced Today presenters Sarah Montague and Mishal Husain to breathless, apologetic giggles.

We also learned, though, just how efficiently the new establishment now moves to sweep such ideas aside, before they can begin to change minds and lives.

And we also learned how far we are from seeing the emergence, under 21st-century conditions, of a mainstream UK party with the courage and energy to embody this kind of alternative vision of our economy and our world; and to return to the dangerous, high-stakes business of offering voters not two or three different sales pitches for the same failing system, but a genuine choice between an old world that has had its day, and a new one, now struggling to be born.

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I listen to some of the Today programme practically every morning - the only thing I can stomach when getting up. Thursday was no different - only had time for the first hour as off out to work. I thought Polly's introduction to her approach about ten minutes in was great - and set a clear frame for what would be different. And certainly the musical contributions were different (and suitably eclectic), as was the inclusion of so much poetry.

I did find the notion that she wanted people to be able to say their piece as they wanted to interesting. One of the usual barbs thrown at Today is that it is a mouthpiece for politicians who come on and spout their "line", regardless of the question being put. It was a bit different contributors not having to shoehorn their views in.

The inclusion of Assange was certainly challenging, but not just for those looking at the politics of his wikileaks activity. I do have some concern at giving a platform to someone accused of various serious sexual assault charges - notwithstanding the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise. I'm intrigued as to whether this was a concern for Polly and if so, how she squared it for herself.

I haven't heard the rest of the programme yet, but will listen at some point.

Meantime, the hysteria of the Mail and others is both laughable, and a clear indication that she got lots right with her programming! And that warms the heart of an old leftie like me!

And, at the end of the day, she did exactly as the guest editor slot has been trying to do every year for years - finding a way of doing something different with a tried and tested format that struggles on the quiet news days between Christmas and the return to work for most in the UK.


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Yes_No_Maybe_So wrote:
babycakes wrote:
My favourite part of this article on the "cult artist" is the "So, Who Is Polly Jean Harvey?" bit at the end. Keep up the good work, Daily Mail....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -tosh.html


ha ha, there were a few comic gems in there.


"The Today programme on Radio 4 faced criticism from across the political spectrum after it gave editorial control to cult musician P J Harvey, who filled the show with polemics from left-wing activists and bizarre musical interludes."

She should've gone all the way and put on a track from Trout Mask, :laugh:

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