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I think this was taken by John Miles, but does anyone know what for? I found some similar ones on here before but I don't remember if anything was said about them.



yesterday night i searched for info: firstly ( and that was a mistake) i used google, without any success; then it came to my mind that indeed i read someone here talking about their author before;

long story short @AineteEkaterini (to him/her all credit) old posts brought me to different websides with different answers:

-first of all who John Miles is. He's a Dorset professional photographer, here's a biography by the marshwoodvale magazine: https://www.marshwoodvale.com/people/2010/02/john-miles/
unfortunatly his website appears to be dead.

-for the photos, this blog answered more or less the question: http://hearthofmopsus.blogspot.com/2017/03/tumulus-2005.html

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There’s a well-known photograph of Polly Harvey showing her standing in a room which is unremarkable at first glance but somehow slightly threatening – made the more so by the large spider on a table in the foreground, pooled in the light from a lamp. It’s from early on in her career – it could be from 1991 and is certainly no later than 1992. She doesn’t look quite as skinny as she became a bit after that. I knew that the photo had been taken by a gentleman called John Miles, and that he’d used PJ as a model a few years later as well: in one image (‘Man and Woman’) he dresses her in a floaty white dress anticipating her White Chalk-era outfits, and also in a man’s black suit which hangs off her, and has her hold hands with herself in an otherworldly dance. I utilised another of the ‘spider’ photos when talking here about Polly’s first album, Dry: it must be John Miles’s, though you can’t find it attributed anywhere.

It was only very recently that I looked at Mr Miles’s website and discovered he was based in Dorset; I thought I might buy his book, Tumulus. I have to confess I gibbed a bit at the price it would have taken to import it from the publisher in the US, but found a second-hand copy on Abebooks, which turned out, when it arrived, to be ex-library stock from Dorchester, rather a nice synchronicity. There’s an independent film-maker called Sarah Miles a couple of whose productions PJH had taken part in; she plays a dangerously thin bunny girl in one, and in another, an inconclusive tale about two teenage Japanese girls who unaccountably find themselves going to school in Lyme Regis, she’s what appears to be a white-draped Japanese ghost. I’d speculated whether John Miles might be related to Sarah, and so it turned out: he’s her father. I’d wondered whether Ms Miles had met Ms Harvey at art college, but as she’s about ten years older that’s not very likely. Again, although John Miles taught at Beaminster Secondary School where Polly was a pupil, he’d left long before then, so that can’t be the connection, either. In his description of how the ‘Spider’ photo came about, he merely says that he planned to do it after his son gave him the spider in a case, and she sort of turned up at the right time, which I don’t quite believe. He says nothing at all in explanation of how David bloody Hockney is in one of the other shots.

It’s a peculiar book, it turns out. In the title photo (one of the ones Mr Miles is proudest of in his career, he says) a little girl looks mischievously – sinisterly – off to the right, the eponymous burial mound behind her, while on the left hand side is what seems to be a cupboard door with a mirror reflecting two older figures, one of them a woman whose face is obscured. There’s not much obvious Dorset material, though apparently the great majority of the photos were taken close to Mr Miles’s base in Loders – one snap of a wedding party shows Loders church, while another has a young girl framed against the toothy ruins of Sherborne Old Castle, just poking over the grass behind her head. The tumulus itself could be anywhere, really. A lot of the photos are collages, compiled from multiple exposures; many have an unsettlingly dark humour to them, and in most you have no idea what might be going on. The Loders wedding is possibly the only one that’s pure reportage, recording a fleeting moment in local life. Or is it? Having looked through the others you become increasingly unsure of anything. Given that the images in this collection were taken over a long while, you start to wonder whether this adult is the same as this child with the addition of 15 to 20 years. It’s a world recognisably our own, yet skewed and unfamiliar: morbid would not be an unreasonable word. Mr Miles favours locations which increase the sense of breakdown in normality, rubbish-strewn sheds, unkempt rooms, barns with holes in walls and roofs – the Other Dorset, maybe, the world behind the mirror. Ms H seems at home here.(...)




by the way, recently a user, who, judging by the way she writes, allegedly is Sarah Miles herself, answered in this way:

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it;'s so strange to read about oneself, and then a feeling of wanting to scream a truth.. but then again the internet is a sea of possilibity and impossibilty. My experience working with P J Harvey was by chance, our Mother's were friends, I remember Eva proudly producing all her cuttings of Polly every single note carefully documented. Yes the inconclusive tale was filmed over a weekend. I asked Polly to compose an otherworldly version of the three degrees When will I see you again and the wonderful John Parish produced it.
I wanted to make a Thomas Hardy inspired Western and Polly and I corresponded about it with me loving the return of the native, Polly said she'd never read Hardy before going all Hardyesque.
Whose dorset? It's so tempting to simply publish a truth but feels wanton.


followed by the blog's author:

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Good heavens, I must apologise for not having noticed this comment until now! I hope you might notice this reply eventually. Thank you for taking the trouble to contribute. I adore Amaeru Fallout, and if you could ever persuade PJH to revive the Hardy project we would all be overjoyed ... If I've said anything inaccurate, do let me know, I will be happy to change it.






apologies for the long post but my curiosity had to be fed. :laugh: let me know if i messed up anything.



i'll make up for the wall of text with AMAERU FALLOUT 1972's PJ pics ( Taken by Mr Miles):

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:51 pm 
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Thank you for the information and photos! I never updated about that photo I wondered about, but I eventually figured out that it was indeed John Miles who took it in about 2006-7 and published on his now inaccessible website and titled "fragments of PJH" with a couple other pictures. I knew he was the father of Sarah Miles, and from Dorset but I didn't know these in-depth details so thank you for sharing those websites they were very interesting to read!


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 8:52 am 
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Great digging! Thank you for sharing.


Have we seen this picture? I don't recognise the description.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:31 pm 
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1011whoknows wrote:
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1011whoknows wrote:
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This was the picture


I did a reverse image search of this picture and found this page, with a larger version of this picture plus 3 more. They appear smaller on the page, but download at full size.

https://theboywhocan11.tumblr.com/post/164735878677/lilacea-pj-harvey-by-john-miles-nice

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:14 am 
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Curious that third one is not from the same session tho, its the one my profil pic comes from


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Hell and High Water wrote:
I did a reverse image search of this picture and found this page, with a larger version of this picture plus 3 more.


I remember those other two from this photo session, I found them on here a few years ago actually! I believe the page you linked was where I found the photo I asked about. John Miles seemed to take intriguing photographs.


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Curious that third one is not from the same session tho, its the one my profil pic comes from


It's the same spider on the same table so I would think that it is from the same session. This account, The Boy Who Can, is still active, but clearly they are not the photographer. I wonder where they came from originally?

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 11:33 pm 
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Hell and High Water wrote:
It's the same spider on the same table so I would think that it is from the same session. This account, The Boy Who Can, is still active, but clearly they are not the photographer. I wonder where they came from originally?



they are from John Miles like the others :):


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There’s a well-known photograph of Polly Harvey showing her standing in a room which is unremarkable at first glance but somehow slightly threatening – made the more so by the large spider on a table in the foreground, pooled in the light from a lamp. It’s from early on in her career – it could be from 1991 and is certainly no later than 1992. She doesn’t look quite as skinny as she became a bit after that. I knew that the photo had been taken by a gentleman called John Miles


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https://www.anothermag.com/art-photography/15661/rankin-on-photographing-bjork-pj-harvey-and-more-in-the-90s

PJ Harvey, 1998
“I shot PJ Harvey about four or five times. She was always so incredible to meet and collaborate with because she was very trusting. Looking through the Dazed lens is to look through a much more gritty lens, [it’s] less sophisticated image-making, a little more raw. I went to visit her at her home, which was off a little road in the country, with one assistant. Here, I was trying quite hard to photograph her against a plain background because that always made the better cover. She ended up being so in love that she became another one of those people that really supported Dazed. I can’t underestimate how supportive she was.”


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2024 10:12 pm 
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I just noticed a little detail in the last picture:

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Do you recognize him? (not the same picture, but I have no doubt it's him)

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that's great!


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nice find Bruise

found this on facebook - a letter from Polly to Paul Reed asking for a gig on behalf of Automatic Dlamini https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10 ... 7383213122
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